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by dandonio » Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:00 pm
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by dandonio » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:58 pm
When you take out the leader they are like sheep without a shepherd. What do I mean by this? Well... without the avatar there would be less wars, and people would believe more in theirselves.
by Kuku » Tue Dec 25, 2007 5:41 pm
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by Artefacto » Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:13 pm
Well, considering that this storyline is actually all about the Avatar defeating the firenation, I believe it should be pointed out even more how the 'firenation' itself isn't that bad.
In episodes such as 'the Headband' and 'the painted lady', it was already pointed out that the inhabitants of the firenation are pretty friendly people, and during 'the avatar and the firelord' we got to see how even the firelord was a pretty friendly chap.
Also notice how 'war is of all times' even in the avatarverse.
In the episode 'Avatar day' we all got to see how an earth nation inhabitant 'Chin the great/conqueror' was actually way more 'ebil/powerfull' then any of the firelords so far. Chin conquered the entire avatarverse (with the exception of Ba Sing Se)
Also note that most of the time the country which goes to war is the country 'in control' of the avatar.
The firenation tried to go to war (or at least gave it a shot) when Roku was a ful-fledged avatar : Chin the conqueror went to war whilst Kyoshi was the avatar...
I kinda believe the only reason why these peace-loving air monks didn't went to war was 1) because they were peace-loving
or 2) because they were wiped out before Aang was a fully realised avatar.
It just seems that the leaders of nations often think (ahhh the avatar is on our side, time for WAR!) (Sure you could say that this time it is not the case, with Aang (airbender) fighting the firelord but it is. The firenation warcampaign would never have started if Sozin didn't get the idea that he and Roku could dominate the planet)
So i kind of believe that the avatar itself is the reason why wars exist in the avatarverse. If there wouldn't be an avatar then no-one would believe they have the 'upper-hand'. Everyone would be much more timid.
Conclusion: If there was no avatar, an avatar would not be needed. (this would actually solve the whole avatar cycle thing...all the air nomads are dead, so the cycle is broken, but that's no problem because the avatar is no good anyway)
Note that this is not bashing Aang or any avatar. (please don't smite me with 4 different types of bending) It's just the insight that Avatars only have to interfere with wars caused by their own people or sitting in their house being bored, and being 'cool'
What do YOU think!?
by shadowbender » Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:01 pm
by airman » Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:36 pm
Perhaps. Altough it seems better to avoid 2 of 3 wars by having no avatar. If a real war would actually start (like Sozin's war), I don't think he would be able to do much about it anyway. In the end the avatar is nothing more then a spirit mastering all four styles of bending. Even for the avatar it wouldn't be easy to defeat 'the best firebender' or let's say a small army of 10 men let's say some of the Dai Lee.
by sukkah » Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:09 am
by Artefacto » Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:14 am
isn't that why the gods gave the humans the avatar? since humans are stupid and led by emotions and are corrupt to the core? the three above me illustrates well the importance of an all-powerful bender. and the world doesn't exactly rely on the avatar. the 100 years of aang's disappearance didn't stop the world from living on with their lives and trying to make a stand against the FN
by carly » Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:58 am
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