The Last Airbender: The Legend of Korra General Speculation

[silverlily]

I read on wiki that it's now coming out in 2012. IDK if this is old news, but I think we can all agree that it SUCKS!!!

[Inochi]

Well I'm pretty sure it got delayed because of Nick giving "Korra" 14 more episodes. They said in that newest interview that they want this show to be "like 24" where just the season is focused on whatever villain until it's over and then a new villain next season. Even though ATLA kinda did this already, I think this new structure will probably work out for the better in the end. Not to mention, there's not going to be any time for filler so it will all be good stuff episode-wise.

[Scooz TJQ]

...*fingers crossed* I hope you're right, SOTS

[banegirl]

Not to mention, there's not going to be any time for filler so it will all be good stuff episode-wise.

...I like filler episodes.

[Pleh]

I'm still laughing my butt off that Jonah Jameson will be Aang's son. Tenzin is going to be nothing LIKE his father.

[Tera253]

well, the icing on the "Korra=badass" cake was when they said he was the opposite of Aang. *also imagines badass Tenzin*

maybe Tenzin and Korra will get along really well, even with that 30 or so year age difference.
~Azula~

[banegirl]

maybe Tenzin and Korra will get along really well, even with that 30 or so year age difference.
~Azula~

Aang's son and Aang reincarnated

[WaterBending_Monk]

I can't wait for korra. The last airbender had such a likeable storyline and the mythology was so simple yet unique and I'm hoping since this new korra show is from the same world as tla, we get the same satisfaction, if not more. And I love the fact that we're gonna get to see someone be trained in the art of airbending. It seems appropriate because we barely saw the origins of airbending in tla.

And I'm sure since we're gonna see more with airbending, there's gonna be talk of a rouge airbender in the show. Since they showed "rouge" earthbenders; the dai li, and a "rouge" waterbender; Hama, in the last show, they have to keep up the message of "anyone is capable of great good or great evil." I really can't wait for korra. I think it's gonna be great stuff

[Zutaraisdestiny]

Please don't let them make Korra and tenzin get along "really well". lol. That would just be really weird the age difference plus the son and reincarnation thing...

[Battery]

Woo... I heard that Korra was having a booth or event or something at this year's SD Comic Con, so hopefully we'll get some new news from that. Hopefully we'll get a glimpse at a more definite start date, or even a look at some of the other characters. The rest of the world and myself want to know what Tenzin is going to look like. There are 50 billion interpretations of him on DeviantArt. xD

Spoiler: show

[Inochi]

Woo... I heard that Korra was having a booth or event or something at this year's SD Comic Con, so hopefully we'll get some new news from that. Hopefully we'll get a glimpse at a more definite start date, or even a look at some of the other characters. The rest of the world and myself want to know what Tenzin is going to look like. There are 50 billion interpretations of him on DeviantArt. xD

Spoiler: show

Oh the J.J. jokes will never get old. <3

Spoiler: show

[silverlily]

The new trailer/ad for The Legend of Korra looks so great!!!! I almost passed out when I found out about it.

[Battery]

By the way, LAF totally stole my overview. "Made it their own" by adding the things I left out due to not making it too long, and changing a few words and punctuation. Screw you, LAF. Only kudos I give you is for your pics.

Anyways, I watched the trailer this morning and paused it every few seconds to study it. Few interesting things I noticed that haven't been mentioned: I found a fire hydrant and some plumbing. Awesomesause.

I also watched the panel on YouTube and it was amazing. Seriously. Anyhoo, I learned a few more things that weren't tweeted. They showed Korra as a little girl (she was sooooo kyoot) and I finally saw pictures of these new lemurs. They look seriously awesome. I also saw pictures of Tenzin's kids and his wife. Turns out they don't just have three airbending kids, but another kid on the way. And the reason we don't know Toph's father? It wasn't because they just didn't talk about it, but because Bryan was as evil as always.

They showed the picture and said, "This... is Cheif Bei Fong, Toph's.... daughter." The fandom freaked out, and they all began to scream as an intelligible whole, "WHO'S THE FATHER?" Bryan just pulled the microphone really, really close to his mouth and said, "I don't know what you're screaming. Let's move to the next picture."

Bryan.... I love you man, but you like to ruin my fangirly life.

[Tera253]

Bryke has always been evil. This is not new information.


I did see pics of little Korra, and knew that one of Dee Bradley Baker's daughters got the voice part for her.
Also saw Pema, could *kinda* tell she looked preggers. good to know that Pon Farr is more than just a game.

haven't seen the lemurs, but with my ways around the interwebs, give it about 6 minutes.

as for Bei Fong... there was no father.
~Azula~

[Inochi]

By the way, LAF totally stole my overview. "Made it their own" by adding the things I left out due to not making it too long, and changing a few words and punctuation. Screw you, LAF. Only kudos I give you is for your pics.

Anyways, I watched the trailer this morning and paused it every few seconds to study it. Few interesting things I noticed that haven't been mentioned: I found a fire hydrant and some plumbing. Awesomesause.

I also watched the panel on YouTube and it was amazing. Seriously. Anyhoo, I learned a few more things that weren't tweeted. They showed Korra as a little girl (she was sooooo kyoot) and I finally saw pictures of these new lemurs. They look seriously awesome. I also saw pictures of Tenzin's kids and his wife. Turns out they don't just have three airbending kids, but another kid on the way. And the reason we don't know Toph's father? It wasn't because they just didn't talk about it, but because Bryan was as evil as always.

They showed the picture and said, "This... is Cheif Bei Fong, Toph's.... daughter." The fandom freaked out, and they all began to scream as an intelligible whole, "WHO'S THE FATHER?" Bryan just pulled the microphone really, really close to his mouth and said, "I don't know what you're screaming. Let's move to the next picture."

Bryan.... I love you man, but you like to ruin my fangirly life.

Don't worry kiddo. They also like to manually change the timestamp of their news posts to purposely make it seem like they were first to get the info. I don't think it's as big a deal though. Compare their comment sections now to the ones relating to the movie. They're not as big, and they know it, so they copied from someone who's at least successful and well connected to the Avatar fandom like us. I read it and I agree with you, they seemingly just changed some punctuation and added some words here and there. The structure, syntax, and patterns of "their version" is way too similar to your own writeup for it to be a pure coincidence. We're dealing with the show now though and that's where we really shine as a site and as a community.

Speaking of the panel, I'm actually working on getting it up on the site for everyone to see at their convenience. But man, this sucker is a big file. As for Toph's daughter, Bryke just loves to play coy. That's ok though, I'm ok with some things staying a mystery until the actual show. That doesn't mean we can't speculate though.

[Pleh]

Actually, Sots, the fact that they refuse to tell us who the father is only implies that such information is "juicy" or otherwise "significant" and we know for fact that they did not simply forget due to a lack of importance.

Not that we wouldn't have wanted to know beforehand, but the fact that they intentionally withhold the information actually means a lot.

[Battery]

Not that we wouldn't have wanted to know beforehand, but the fact that they intentionally withhold the information actually means a lot.

I also noticed that the Bei Fong topic was the only one they acted that way with. Everything else they were fairly open about.

[banegirl]

Hey here's some pictures i found floating around the interwebs. People have probobly already seen them, but I thought I'd post them anyway. :)


The New Trio: Korra, Mako, and Bolin


Chief Bei Fong


Tenzin and Family


Oman: leader of the Equalists


Equalist


New Team Avatar


Mako is sexy


Bolin!


Tenzin!


Korra


I repeat Mako is SEXY.


A CAR? WTF.


Fights!


Oman


Mako...what can I say


Pro-bending (Does this remind anyone else of Pokemon?)


More Pro bending


Korra laying the smackdown.


The Cast

Sorry that was way too many photos.

[vinnybonboot]

I just discovered this site a few days ago and successfully watched every single episode from start to finish (no life, right?). And then I got a little sad that the series was over. But that's when I saw the posts about the Legend of Korra and I got all excited haha. So I read into it and saw the trailer, here is what I think of it.

I think that the series will be really awesome and I am really excited for it. I like that they are giving a somewhat of a late epilogue to the original series. It looks pretty epic. The only thing I am a little bummed out about is that it takes place in modern times... at least it seems that way. There are cars and modern buildings and electricity. Yet it is only supposed to take place 70 years after the original series. I know that In the original series they had machines that were run off of steam, mainly in the Fire Nation. However, even so, it still seemed like it was back in the days of ancient Asia. It doesn't really feel right that in only 70 years, it caught itself up to modern times. I personally think they should have kept the setting like it was, or at least close to it. That aside, I still think The Last Airbender: The Legend of Korra will be amazing! Do you guys agree??

[Air of the North]

Haven't seen the video yet but cant wait for Korra to come out in 2012!!!

[Artefacto]

Bolin? More like BRO-lin!

[Tiny]

Is it bad that, as of right now, I kinda feel for the Equalists? Not knowing much about them, and assuming quite a lot, I don't see lots of room for unjustified maliciousness.

I want to know more about Mako/Bolin. As of right now, Korra's story seems a bit predictable to me, seeing as she's mastered three elements, and she came from one of two sources in a time of established (near?) peace. Obviously we have canon mixed-nation couples (Aang/Katara for one) and FN/EK seem to be a bit of an odd mix, even years after the war. I want to see how they dealt with that, if there was a struggle at all. Also, they're cute.

I think it would also be interesting to re-open the "genetics vs spirituality" discussion in light of this new canon information.

[Pleh]

Is it bad that, as of right now, I kinda feel for the Equalists? Not knowing much about them, and assuming quite a lot, I don't see lots of room for unjustified maliciousness.

The Avatar is high on their hit list. The Avatar is the bridge between the worlds and protector of the all important balance between the elements.

To want to take out the Avatar is to want to destabilize the entire world and throw everything into Chaos and Anarchy.

I have very little pity for them becoming the Red Shirt Stormtroopers of this story. They are just power hungry nuts like every other villain, except this time they think that by claiming to be merely "equalizing" that their grab for power is justified. Bullshit.

Also, it smells vaguely of Socialistic thought ("everyone should be equal and no one should have more than anyone else"), which may result in Liberal ATLA fans feeling more sympathetic to their cause while making Conservative ATLA fans to only dislike them even more intensely.

Also, before you get to sympathizing too hard with these guys, exactly how do you think they intend to achieve "equality" with any bender? Ty Lee's power only temporarily disables bending. Temporary equality is not a virtue to dedicate your life to. So what's the use in learning that ability for the purpose of true equality? Well, the only way to permanently stop a bender from bending without soulbending is to kill them, and since Energybending is not likely something that all these Equalists can do, I think these ninjas just go around killing benders wherever they find them, taking away their powers and leaving them stunned and helpless just before they slit their throats. All in the name of equality.

Finally, you assume they bother to stop and justify their actions. Ever stop to consider that they don't care whether or not what they do is wrong or malicious? Some people are just plain evil and they make no apologies or justifications for it.

Yeah, I have no sympathy for them.

FN/EK seem to be a bit of an odd mix

JinXZuko.

Iroh Approved.

I think it would also be interesting to re-open the "genetics vs spirituality" discussion in light of this new canon information.

Really? What new information? All I've seen is that they use the same technique that Ty Lee used, which gives us nothing we didn't already have. Ty Lee attacked key Chi pressure points to disrupt the Chi's flow. So far as I can see, this only means that Chi needs some sort of Conduit in order to flow, or for it's flow to be controlled, but it means nothing so far as bending being derived from genetics or spirituality.

In fact, think also to the time Ty Lee fought Sokka in The Chase. She hit his arm and it went numb. Then his other arm and that went numb. Then his leg and it went numb. Then his forehead and she hurt her hand. But Sokka isn't a bender. He's just a regular guy with a boomerang. So the question becomes, did Ty Lee actually block their bending, or just disable their arms which they needed to bend with?

I believe the case of Sokka makes it obvious that the answer is that she disables the arms, not the bending directly, and I would claim that if Ty Lee fought Bumi, she could disable his arms and legs and he could still bend against her with his head and torso. From this, I would conclude that she is disabling their bodies, but not their bending.

And how do we separate the two? Energybending. "In the time before the elements, we bent the energy within ourselves." [slightly paraphrased]. Aang took away Ozai's bending, but not by directly attacking his body. He did it by bending Ozai's energy, his soul. He changed who Ozai was and it was through spirituality that he couldn't bend anymore, not through his body (indeed, if Aang's technique had worked the same way as Ty Lee's did except making the damage permanent, then Ozai would just about have to be dead or in a vegetative state, which he clearly wasn't).

To be fair, we don't really know what happened with Soulbending and Aang vs Ozai, but with Ty Lee's ability, they told us explicitly what happened. She was simply placing proper pressure on a pressure point. Energybending seems to have been intended to be mystical and unexplained (a signature theme of spiritualistic elements in a story).

I have always been, and remain to this day, a firm believer in the Spiritualist side of the argument. Genetic solution theories never seemed consistent with the world Bryke portrayed (though it is clear that genetics has a role somewhere, it is simply not a primary one).

Besides, if there's some mutant gene that allows bending, then Avatar = X-Men and, for that reason alone, I'd want to keep bending a strictly spiritual effect.

[Tiny]

The Avatar is high on their hit list. The Avatar is the bridge between the worlds and protector of the all important balance between the elements.

To want to take out the Avatar is to want to destabilize the entire world and throw everything into Chaos and Anarchy.

I have very little pity for them becoming the Red Shirt Stormtroopers of this story. They are just power hungry nuts like every other villain, except this time they think that by claiming to be merely "equalizing" that their grab for power is justified. Bullshit.

Also, it smells vaguely of Socialistic thought ("everyone should be equal and no one should have more than anyone else"), which may result in Liberal ATLA fans feeling more sympathetic to their cause while making Conservative ATLA fans to only dislike them even more intensely.

Also, before you get to sympathizing too hard with these guys, exactly how do you think they intend to achieve "equality" with any bender? Ty Lee's power only temporarily disables bending. Temporary equality is not a virtue to dedicate your life to. So what's the use in learning that ability for the purpose of true equality? Well, the only way to permanently stop a bender from bending without soulbending is to kill them, and since Energybending is not likely something that all these Equalists can do, I think these ninjas just go around killing benders wherever they find them, taking away their powers and leaving them stunned and helpless just before they slit their throats. All in the name of equality.

Finally, you assume they bother to stop and justify their actions. Ever stop to consider that they don't care whether or not what they do is wrong or malicious? Some people are just plain evil and they make no apologies or justifications for it.

Yeah, I have no sympathy for them.

sympathy =/= support. And I don't think that we know enough about them to make any particular determination, which is why I said that as of right now, I do sympathize with their cause. I feel (the word I used) for them because, frankly, there is a favor for bending in that world. Who wouldn't be annoyed/want justice? I am assuming a lot, of course. And of course they are going to be villainous. I don't expect to support them. But because they're now called "Equalists" and not "anti-benders" it does evoke at least some sympathy for them. They may end up being Machiavellian - I'm sure some of them will be - or terrible or terrorist etc etc etc. And obviously, I don't think that killing the Avatar, or anyone for that matter, is the best course of action, nor the right one. But that doesn't mean that their justification isn't quite admirable.

And I feel for most people, regardless of their actions. I have felt pain for serial killers, and I don't expect it to change for a fictional group, especially when their actions seem a bit less concrete (they haven't quite done anything yet). Also, we have been told (I believe. I may be wrong) that Ty Lee's techniques have been spread around the world. Maybe they'll use that. I won't judge them either way until 2012, but like I said, I feel for their cause. I don't intend to hate them just yet.

-Really? What new information? All I've seen is that they use the same technique that Ty Lee used, which gives us nothing we didn't already have. Ty Lee attacked key Chi pressure points to disrupt the Chi's flow. So far as I can see, this only means that Chi needs some sort of Conduit in order to flow, or for it's flow to be controlled, but it means nothing so far as bending being derived from genetics or spirituality.

In fact, think also to the time Ty Lee fought Sokka in The Chase. She hit his arm and it went numb. Then his other arm and that went numb. Then his leg and it went numb. Then his forehead and she hurt her hand. But Sokka isn't a bender. He's just a regular guy with a boomerang. So the question becomes, did Ty Lee actually block their bending, or just disable their arms which they needed to bend with?

I believe the case of Sokka makes it obvious that the answer is that she disables the arms, not the bending directly, and I would claim that if Ty Lee fought Bumi, she could disable his arms and legs and he could still bend against her with his head and torso. From this, I would conclude that she is disabling their bodies, but not their bending.

And how do we separate the two? Energybending. "In the time before the elements, we bent the energy within ourselves." [slightly paraphrased]. Aang took away Ozai's bending, but not by directly attacking his body. He did it by bending Ozai's energy, his soul. He changed who Ozai was and it was through spirituality that he couldn't bend anymore, not through his body (indeed, if Aang's technique had worked the same way as Ty Lee's did except making the damage permanent, then Ozai would just about have to be dead or in a vegetative state, which he clearly wasn't).

To be fair, we don't really know what happened with Soulbending and Aang vs Ozai, but with Ty Lee's ability, they told us explicitly what happened. She was simply placing proper pressure on a pressure point. Energybending seems to have been intended to be mystical and unexplained (a signature theme of spiritualistic elements in a story).

I have always been, and remain to this day, a firm believer in the Spiritualist side of the argument. Genetic solution theories never seemed consistent with the world Bryke portrayed (though it is clear that genetics has a role somewhere, it is simply not a primary one).

Besides, if there's some mutant gene that allows bending, then Avatar = X-Men and, for that reason alone, I'd want to keep bending a strictly spiritual effect.

I wasn't referring to the Equalists when I said this. Rather, I was interested more with the information that two people from different nations can have children, and the children receive a bending element of only one of the nations. And neither does there have to be a mutant gene. In fact, I would doubt that it would be a mutant gene, considering a significant portion of that world bends. It may have - if it was genetic - started as a mutant gene, but I don't think it would any longer be considered such. This, of course, does not discount any argument for spirituality, it just provides further factors with which we can analyze the situation.

[Renori Fa]

was there any mention of Azula in all this??